tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post5575214808834788378..comments2024-03-19T01:21:12.351-07:00Comments on Cation Designs: Those Elusive Four-Leaf CloversCation Designshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-34280249445595135652013-10-02T19:51:50.142-07:002013-10-02T19:51:50.142-07:00"I have to remind myself that most people don..."I have to remind myself that most people don't look at me and think about the crotch curve adjustments I should have made. Nope, that's just me, sneakily staring at people's nether regions while trying to figure out how their pants fit."<br /><br />Me, too. : )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-13844834038723558442013-05-22T17:14:43.289-07:002013-05-22T17:14:43.289-07:00Trousers are tricky, and yours are, as you say, ni...Trousers are tricky, and yours are, as you say, nicely 3 leaf and make a terrific work outfit - in RTW terms they are a good fit!. There is so much excellent fitting advice here, but I wonder if some of the issues are to do with the stretchiness of the fabric. Stretch wovens are notoriously difficult to fit in trousers because you have to make them too small in the direction of stretch when you first put them on, as they increase in size with wear. Any fitting changes you make for this pair, in this fabric, may not apply to the next pair in a different stretch woven fabric - particularly in the backside and the back of the thigh, where they are stretched by sitting. Stabilising the seams with selvage or cotton tape can help a little bit, but basically, unless the stretch factor is tiny, you will have excess width of fabric at the back after wear regardless of the fitting excellence - and you can see this in any RTW pair with more than 3%lycra. You are very hard on yourself! (The length adjustments are less changeable, which I think is why it is generally recommended to alter length first when you are fitting)kbencohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00885068563358776147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-4866850565005608092013-05-21T15:23:16.611-07:002013-05-21T15:23:16.611-07:00This is a lovely and elegant outfit. I'm amaze...This is a lovely and elegant outfit. I'm amazed by anyone who makes pants, I haven't gone there yet (although I will, one day)and these look perfectly acceptable! Now to the next version...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-4331133994355538272013-05-19T19:52:17.780-07:002013-05-19T19:52:17.780-07:00Oh no! That's so sad! I need to try a lace col...Oh no! That's so sad! I need to try a lace collar on a cardigan now...I still have one more set somewhere!Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-87261805100147642832013-05-19T19:51:44.863-07:002013-05-19T19:51:44.863-07:00Yeah, I was scared of Clovers too, and I actually ...Yeah, I was scared of Clovers too, and I actually wouldn't recommend them as a starting point, even though these turned out okay. Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-54550708706418975172013-05-19T19:51:06.471-07:002013-05-19T19:51:06.471-07:00Thanks! Although I guess if I cared enough, I woul...Thanks! Although I guess if I cared enough, I would've stopped to change thread colors to match the seam binding...Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-67736979985922225662013-05-19T19:50:16.456-07:002013-05-19T19:50:16.456-07:00Collars are definitely something I wouldn't ha...Collars are definitely something I wouldn't have given a second thought to last year, but your collared dresses are so cute! Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-64622303744812056332013-05-19T19:49:30.293-07:002013-05-19T19:49:30.293-07:00Thanks for your advice! I'm going to have to p...Thanks for your advice! I'm going to have to play around with some muslin and try out all these changes and see what effect they have for sure.Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-29672348634980549652013-05-19T19:48:29.642-07:002013-05-19T19:48:29.642-07:00Nice analogy! Lace is definitely icing!Nice analogy! Lace is definitely icing!Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-44028005129889484242013-05-19T19:48:03.650-07:002013-05-19T19:48:03.650-07:00Thanks for your reassuring words :) I think my pro...Thanks for your reassuring words :) I think my problem is that I change multiple things at once, so I don't know what adjustment specifically causes what change...Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-1277115853422795962013-05-19T19:47:06.401-07:002013-05-19T19:47:06.401-07:00After taking a look at lots of pants fitting artic...After taking a look at lots of pants fitting articles/sites, I think I might actually need a knock-knee alteration, and definitely not a fish-eye dart. Thanks for the advice!Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-33946854207093182952013-05-19T19:46:21.492-07:002013-05-19T19:46:21.492-07:00You can do it! It's not necessarily difficult,...You can do it! It's not necessarily difficult, just time-consuming to fit. Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-34450247808893175212013-05-19T19:43:56.273-07:002013-05-19T19:43:56.273-07:00Thanks for letting me have your copy, Sandra! I th...Thanks for letting me have your copy, Sandra! I think I'll be trying the copying method next, so hopefully that goes more smoothly! Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-71792834608980630242013-05-19T19:42:59.604-07:002013-05-19T19:42:59.604-07:00On second thought, I would say these pants are a s...On second thought, I would say these pants are a step above RTW because the waistband doesn't gap in the back. But you're right, indistinguishable from RTW is nothing to sneeze at!Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-55822762093500195922013-05-19T19:42:05.665-07:002013-05-19T19:42:05.665-07:00Hahaha yes, that's totally what I'm all ab...Hahaha yes, that's totally what I'm all about :)Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-88543788840539520502013-05-19T19:41:47.754-07:002013-05-19T19:41:47.754-07:00Thanks! I think they're okay, just not quite a...Thanks! I think they're okay, just not quite as spectacular as I was hoping for...I'll definitely be doing more research on pants fitting!Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-53875141143740496592013-05-19T19:41:09.626-07:002013-05-19T19:41:09.626-07:00Hmmm, I'm going to have to do some measuring a...Hmmm, I'm going to have to do some measuring and comparing now!Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-41577745808009144102013-05-19T19:40:16.278-07:002013-05-19T19:40:16.278-07:00Every once in a while, Mr. Cation makes an absolut...Every once in a while, Mr. Cation makes an absolutely inspired suggestion. Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-68939391002075906362013-05-19T19:39:47.755-07:002013-05-19T19:39:47.755-07:00Thanks for the link! I'll definitely check it ...Thanks for the link! I'll definitely check it out. Cation Designshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00785063344305810736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-50147258538816166332013-05-19T11:23:56.192-07:002013-05-19T11:23:56.192-07:00Hahaha, Sandra! See, this is wear the clover patt...Hahaha, Sandra! See, this is wear the clover pattern went to!<br /><br />Cindy, personally, I think reaching equality with RTW is a big step for trying to fit pants!!Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14989756320124172799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-80369843043250596062013-05-17T21:17:45.302-07:002013-05-17T21:17:45.302-07:00they look great! love the collar. I attached one t...they look great! love the collar. I attached one to cardi that my great grandma had made....and i lost the cardigan....to this day im devastated!<br />The pants lok great and i love the contrast on the inside!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10591078010829649352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-61210780773354762022013-05-17T05:24:51.536-07:002013-05-17T05:24:51.536-07:00I think these look fab. I too am scared of the Clo...I think these look fab. I too am scared of the Clover because they seem so difficult to fit (and I don't have "standard fit" legs :)), and I've never made trousers/pants before at all - so they don't seem like a good place to start. But they are a style I like to wear... so... I'll probably put them off for a while longer.<br />Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06525020848581000170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-29416443460695529842013-05-17T02:40:44.954-07:002013-05-17T02:40:44.954-07:00The inside finish of the Clovers and the top is so...The inside finish of the Clovers and the top is so lovely! Fancy!Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11327154239370215171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-22054078301791259332013-05-16T22:42:14.340-07:002013-05-16T22:42:14.340-07:00Love the outfit it looks hella comfy, I'd love...Love the outfit it looks hella comfy, I'd love to have that complete outfit - you know I love collars!!! Neenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05805951948694378777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479880960748887964.post-28494442568744118902013-05-16T19:57:07.454-07:002013-05-16T19:57:07.454-07:00Very cute pants - and such a great length.
If you...Very cute pants - and such a great length.<br /><br />If your pants are bunching up under your butt, you may wish to take our some fabric from the centre back of each back pant piece, rather than the side seams. I recently took a class (The Palmer/Pletch Fit for Real People), and the difference is amazing! If you have the back pattern piece lying flat, fold a pleat from waist to hem (maybe follow the grainline to keep it straight) to take out the excess.twotoasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04432778966553987105noreply@blogger.com